formal programming training
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gannon
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who here has formal programming training (through work or school) and how much?
Posted on 2004-07-24 18:55:23
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mcgrue
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I basically learned how to program in v1.
Then I went to college (never graduated) and worked professionally for a year (left to go back to college, which I continued to not graduate ;).
Posted on 2004-07-24 19:14:29
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Zip
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I did a couple of years at college, and worked for half a year as a baby programmer for a computer company. But I've become rather rusty in the 2-3 years since then, and am still getting back up to speed now - hence the occasionally STOOPID mistake. :D
Zip
[Edit: I started in QBasic - if anyone's interested bug me on IRC and I'll send you a few programs that I wrote ~10 years ago :D]
Posted on 2004-07-24 19:17:51 (last edited on 2004-07-24 19:38:48)
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Kildorf
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I have most of three years of a computer science degree under my belt, and am currently working on a co-operative education term where I program with Perl every day. I've been programming more-or-less since I was 12 though, thanks to having two geek-programmers for parents and a willingness, nay, burning desire to learn how.
That's right. I go to school to learn about programming, go to work to program complicated web sites (I've been working on one with user login, message boards, real time chat room, etc, plus information content for participants in the program (it's medical researchy stuff) with all of the content database-side so we have to do as little "real programming" to fix it as possible), and then come home and program video games and other web sites.
I think I might be able to give Grue a run for his money as King of Dorks.
Posted on 2004-07-24 19:24:19
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loretian
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I did take some college programming courses, but, technically, I wasn't enrolled at the college. There was some cool things about it, some not so cool things. You'll definitely gain some advantages, but you have to be aware of what's bullshit that the professor leans towards because of his personal preferences and what's just good common knowledge.
You can learn to program on your own, but unless you've got a goal or a project you're constantly working (a verge project is a great thing), it's easy to get lazy and not push yourself.
Posted on 2004-07-24 19:30:58
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gannon
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very cool.
myself I have a bachelor degree in computer science and philosophy.(bet you couldn't tell with my spelling and grammer) I have been programming since high school but have always been more into the design than the coding itself.
Posted on 2004-07-24 19:32:02
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Omni
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The only programming course I took was in high school, and it was royally sorry.
I taught myself variables and instructions on an old Atari 800XL (it was SO awesome when I was in fifth grade...I could make a program that could increment a variable!) When I learned about Verge, I read one or two C++ tutorials until I figured out what a function was.
From there I learned Python so I could use ika, which was fun. I ended up learned OOP in the process. From there, I got interested in actual console development (nothing ever came of it), so I read a bit about the basics of assembly, stacks, interrupts...etc.
That's kinda where I am now. No professional training, just...hobbyist. Hobbyist is cool.
Posted on 2004-07-24 21:39:06
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Kildorf
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Hobbyist is definitely cool and, even though I've got a good deal of programming "training", most of my actual programming learning happened outside of school or work (technically, I learned Perl /at work/, but it was still self-teaching). Programming is definitely within the reach of anyone, school or no school, provided they have the ambition to keep at it. :)
Posted on 2004-07-24 22:49:55
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Ness
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I learned how to code using Visual Basic 4 back when I was 14 or so. - A note to anyone trying to learn to code, don't use Visual Basic
Since then I had a c++ class in high school and 4 years of college in comp sci. I still have a semester of college till I graduate.
Posted on 2004-07-25 02:07:54
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RageCage
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I learned to program on verge, then I learned to program on mirc, c++, visual basic, as god knows what else. Then I took a intro C++ class my freshman year in highschool and the teacher was convinced I was programming at "college level" and even threatened to call my mom because he thought I cheated... but then I was able to explain the logic behind my code and he was like... well then...
so yeah, I have had one year of formal training but I didnt learn jack shit from it =p
I do plan to try to get a certificate in video game programming at the local community college as well as a 2d animation cert and a game art cert and then proceed to get a 3d animation degree at fullsail.
Posted on 2004-07-25 17:12:53
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andy
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I took some courses on SQL, Java, VB, and the like, but they were more a matter of endurance than anything else. I learned a lot though!
1) SQL is garbage (but you have to use it anyway)
2) Java is dogshit
3) VB (pre- and post-.NET) is completely retarded
4) Don't ever use Perl for anything
In summary: don't let your schooling interfere with your education.
Posted on 2004-07-25 22:43:32
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vecna
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I got bachelor degrees in computer science and statistics, but like most other people, most of my practical programming experience did not come from school.
Now I work as a data manager for clinical trials for medical research. I'm the last stop between data leaving our lab and reaching the research sponsor.
SQL is garbage.. SAS is really an alternative to SQL, and in my opinion, far superior, but also expensive and propietary, and has a rather different (broader) purpose. SAS is pretty well embedded in clinical areas.
I do kinda recommend that any of you computer science/IT types that are maybe concerned about the job market take a SAS course. It opens up the pharmaceutical market as a possible career avenue for you, which there's quite a bit of money in, and a growing need for technical staff, and not very many people have SAS training.
Posted on 2004-07-26 00:20:25
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loretian
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SAS is for girls.
I think I stole that joke from your website... or something.
Posted on 2004-07-26 03:08:04
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zaril
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Hobby Coding History:
Basic
- GWBasic
- QBasic
VergeC
- Verge Series
C# & DirectX
- Visual Studio C#.NET
Most of my time, I spent on the QBasic part of my path. However, a lot of my whole time in coding has been parallell with my composing hobby.
Posted on 2004-07-26 07:55:52
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rpgking
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I have a B.S. in Computer Science(got it last year), and I've worked at an oil company doing Visual Basic/SQL programming. In my Computer Science program, I honestly did not learn a lot of practical programming(that I can actually use in a modern job). Most of it was data structures and theory. All the programming techniques that I know which actually apply to the real world were learned through books(I'm currently going through a C# book, and I really think C# is superior to Java) and on-the-job experience. If anything, I got my Bachelor's Degree just for credentials which make a resume more appealing.
Posted on 2004-07-26 16:41:52
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grenideer
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I first self-taught html to make a web page. That got me interested in the idea, and verge taught me a LOT. During that time I took a Pascal class towards a CS degree but I stopped going to school cause it didn't seem worth much. I did that for a long time before I got a copy of .NET with the intention of doing more ambitious stuff in C++. But I never got going too far. Then I went to Full Sail and got a Gaming degree and they really teach you a LOT of practical knowledge. It's a huge step to go from verge to Windows programming with DirectX doing 3D. Now I'm working professionally making games.
I saw someone else mention Full Sail but I don't know much about the Animation degree. A couple people told me it wasn't in-depth enough and I heard it might be competitive to get a job, but welcome to the industry. For gaming, only the top few people in a class seem to usually get hired.
The CS degree definitely helps, especially for more traditional career paths, but in a skill based industry, it's more what you can do. Although I admit I'm a bit scarce on a lot of the theory.
Posted on 2004-07-27 00:06:24
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Gayo
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I did QBASIC in high school. My first REAL programming was, depressingly, in V2. Man, was that ever a baptism of fire. Since then I've done some light Java and C++, but I've yet to code anything really complicated in school.
Posted on 2004-07-27 03:39:41
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Technetium
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I first started getting into HTML in my first year of college, but I didn't do anything beyond that standard blocks of paragraphs, an occasional img, and some links. Verge is where I really got into programming, in my 2nd year of college. I took Java in college at one point, but the class was so boring that I stopped going and failed it. I learned a bit of javascript later in college.
That's all I know. I've tried picking up C and C++, but I just don't have the patience.
Posted on 2004-07-28 22:47:33
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anonymous
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I learnt HTML when I was 11 or 12, since I wanted to build a webpage. I learnt from (shockingly) Xoom (does anyone remember this webhost? XD) tutorials about HTML, and used htmlgoodies.com as my guide. Some of my friends took it up too, to "keep up with times" and such. But they sucked, I was the only one who kept learning after the HTML "fad" faded.
Learnt Visual Basic.net in college last semester, and taking a basic C++ course now to learn how to program so I can take on my own verge project.
Posted on 2004-07-28 23:12:08
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