Licensing understanding help, plzkthx?
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mcgrue
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Okay, after some cursory googling I'm giving up and asking you cats.
Which licenses are the ones that say "you can use this in any way you want, but you have to provide your own source thereby spreading the anti-commercial disease further" and which say "you can use this in any way, and be a secret-having bastard, as long as you give credit".
Also, doesn't anyone just issue things into the Public Domain anymore? Sheesh.
Posted on 2004-05-12 15:01:33
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ThinIce
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Quote: Originally posted by mcgrue
Okay, after some cursory googling I'm giving up and asking you cats.
Which licenses are the ones that say "you can use this in any way you want, but you have to provide your own source thereby spreading the anti-commercial disease further" and which say "you can use this in any way, and be a secret-having bastard, as long as you give credit".
Also, doesn't anyone just issue things into the Public Domain anymore? Sheesh.
OSI has a listing of all of the goodness-licenses; Choose and declare! ;)
Probably GPL or LGPL is what you want.
Posted on 2004-05-12 17:44:22
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mcgrue
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If I wanted to read the licenses, I'd've read them! :D
I want informed opinions, not more research! ;)
Posted on 2004-05-12 18:39:16
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Omni
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Double nested contraction?
Anyway, I think LGPL is what you might be looking for.
LGPL is Lesser General Public License.
Or, why not write your own license?
Posted on 2004-05-12 22:52:38
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ThinIce
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Grue... you lazy manwhore!
Anyways, use GPL, everyone does;
Posted on 2004-05-12 23:12:41
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andy
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Quote:Originally posted by mcgrue
Okay, after some cursory googling I'm giving up and asking you cats.
Which licenses are the ones that say "you can use this in any way you want, but you have to provide your own source thereby spreading the anti-commercial disease further" and which say "you can use this in any way, and be a secret-having bastard, as long as you give credit".
Also, doesn't anyone just issue things into the Public Domain anymore? Sheesh.
Reading isn't hard, but here's a summary of the most common ones:
GPL: you know this one. Derived works are GPL, and thus must be released with source.
LGPL: Subtly different license applied to software libraries. You can *use* the library without opensourcing it. Any changes to the library itself must be released with source.
MIT: as free as it gets.
BSD: You can use it any way you like, but you must give credit to the original authors in the documentation. You are also prohibited from removing such from the source itself.
Posted on 2004-05-13 07:04:56
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Omni
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BSD sounds good...
Posted on 2004-05-15 16:18:35
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mcgrue
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LGPL sounds sane. GPL just annoys me, although I understand why it'd want to be so strict.
MIT is a formalization of the old Public Domain, in license form?
BSD is awesome and good. Are there any notable libraries with it, tho?
Posted on 2004-05-15 17:05:38
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mcgrue
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Quote:Originally posted by ThinIce
Grue... you lazy manwhore!
Anyways, use GPL, everyone does;
No, everyone doesn't.
I've read many a pro gamedev article that basically goes "Wow, this is awesome, but shit it's GPL.... better reinvent the box instead!"
Posted on 2004-05-15 17:06:56
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mcgrue
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Quote:Originally posted by Omni
Or, why not write your own license?
5 letters:
IANAL
Posted on 2004-05-15 17:07:29
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andy
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Quote:Originally posted by mcgrue
LGPL sounds sane. GPL just annoys me, although I understand why it'd want to be so strict. GPL applications are one thing. GPL libraries are just lunacy.
MIT is a formalization of the old Public Domain, in license form? Not at all. When you place something in the public domain, you relinquish all rights and ownership of that work. Code licensed under MIT is still copyright the owner. "It's my property, but you can use it absolutely any way you want" There's also a provision saying that the MIT license has to be included "in all copies or substantial portions of the Software."
BSD is awesome and good. Are there any notable libraries with it, tho? uhhhh the BSD kernel? ;)
BSD has an excellent TCP/IP stack. I think everybody uses it. (even Windows NT, if memory serves)
Posted on 2004-05-15 19:53:09
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vecna
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I want a license that is essentially BSD or LGPL except with the condition that it cannot be used in GPL or gpl-alike licenses.
There's something unfair in the GPLs ability to use code licensed by a freer license but unable to be used by that freer license.
Posted on 2004-05-21 13:02:04
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andy
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Such a license would itself be inherently "GPL-like" in that it would be required to infect derivative works to have any effect.
Come to think of it, though, how is the GPL any less unfair than the licensing on code that is completely closed?
If you think of the GPL as commercial code belonging to some hypothetical entity, that entity has access to its own code (ie everything under the GPL) and everything under the looser licenses. This isn't so different from any other software development company/group.
The only difference is that GPL code is also available to the general public, provided that they in turn are willing to do the same.
Posted on 2004-05-23 20:11:17 (last edited on 2004-05-23 20:35:45)
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vecna
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I'm aware that is a stupid and unfeasable thing, its just my way of expressing my distaste of knowing that if I release code to the public domain, some GPL jackhole can use it in his GPL code, which I will be unable to touch, and moreover, said jackhole will actually have the balls to be self-righteous about it and blabber on about he's "more Open" and "Free" and shit.
Posted on 2004-05-25 04:23:25
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andy
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Stupid people are at their best when they're indignant about their stupidity.
Posted on 2004-05-26 07:51:27
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anonymous
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-thinice
Posted on 2004-05-26 11:47:27
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ThinIce
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I strongly recommend you view this animation listening to Sean Paul - Deport Dem, funny crap...
Grue... care to explain this... sick, sick display? ;D
Posted on 2004-05-26 11:54:38
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andy
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A typical day of porn surfing. (you can tell because of the mood swings. Internet porn is not always pretty)
Posted on 2004-05-27 07:53:32
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mcgrue
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That image was made the day I posted vrpg's new version live. I'd been up for a Very Long Time, and there were a ton of errors that manifested when I moved things around.
...so yeah.
Posted on 2004-05-27 08:02:59
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