Velvet Revolver - Contraband
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loretian

Has anyone checked out the new album Contraband, by Velvet Revolver? It opened at #1, beating out Usher and Avril Lange (sp?), which is a pretty big feat, imo.

Personally, I was underwhelmed at first, but with each listen, it's grown on me. The production is very grungy, so Slash's awesome guitar solos are a little obscured, but after a few listens, you can hear them a lot better.

Fall to Pieces, You Got No Right, and Loving the Alien are all instant classics in my book. Fall to Pieces might as well be Sweet Child O' Mine part 2.

Posted on 2004-06-18 04:25:06

ThinIce

Quote:Originally posted by loretian

Has anyone checked out the new album Contraband, by Velvet Revolver? It opened at #1, beating out Usher and Avril Lange (sp?), which is a pretty big feat, imo.

Personally, I was underwhelmed at first, but with each listen, it's grown on me. The production is very grungy, so Slash's awesome guitar solos are a little obscured, but after a few listens, you can hear them a lot better.

Fall to Pieces, You Got No Right, and Loving the Alien are all instant classics in my book. Fall to Pieces might as well be Sweet Child O' Mine part 2.


Interesting enough... [slashdot]

Posted on 2004-06-18 06:11:35

loretian

Ah yeah... I was very pissed off with that. Some people can copy it just fine, some people can't. I was one of the ones who couldn't. Grip seems to do the trick, but it's really fucking lame.

I posted some messages in the VR forum and on a Gn'R forum expressing my displeasure, and recomended that Scott Weiland rant about that at his next concert, rather than journalist who call him a junkie that he is.

Posted on 2004-06-18 06:31:53

mcgrue

Uh... can't you just record from your audio card's line instead of directly from the CD?

If it plays, it's being decoded. Can't you grab it farther up the stream that teh CD isn't aware of? Or is there magic involved?

Posted on 2004-06-18 06:41:33

loretian

Yeah, of course you can. You're not supposed to be able to just stick the CD in and rip it with Media Player (though that seems to work for some people) or any other ripping software, and it's not supposed to copy with standard CD copying tools.

There's tons of ways around it, and ultimately, it's hurting only the people who bought it (like me), since the people who don't want to buy it are still downloading it.

Posted on 2004-06-18 15:45:55

vecna

I downloaded this CD and its pretty rocking!
Not quite as rocking as Opeth, but then again, what is?

Posted on 2004-06-24 01:23:50

Alex

I bought this CD today and was pleasantly surprised by how good it is, but it turns out I'm also one of the people who can't copy it to their computer. I hate BMG or RCA or whichever fascists are responsible for the copy protection. The Darkness's album originally had this problem too, but the record company got so many complaints and returns that they re-released it minus protection. We can only hope the same happens with Contraband, and indeed any other similarly protected records. Not that that'll help me much as I've already bought the bloody thing, but it would be nice if people who actually buy reecords weren't punished for the actions of those who don't.
Anyway, I'll probably listen to it a few more times and then it'll end up gathering dust on the shelf between The Best of Stan Ridgway and Vera Lynn does Techno...

Posted on 2004-06-29 18:32:48

geronimo

is that one of the ones that runs a virus on your machine that prevents you copying it? if so, if you restarted windows, and then HELD SHIFT while putting the cd in and waiting for it to finish reading and shit, it wouldn't do the autorun thing

Posted on 2004-06-29 21:50:46

Alex

Yeah, I held down shift the very first time I put it in the computer, hoping to bypass any shenanigans, but to no avail. ;)

Posted on 2004-06-29 22:12:15

loretian

For me, holding down shit did nothing but prevent the autorun program from running. Attempting to rip it with various sorts of programs resulted in fucked up sounding files.

The only program I could find that will successfully rip the cd is called GRip.

Posted on 2004-06-30 00:08:37

Alex

You got a link for Grip? I've been looking around via Google, and found various references to the only protection on Contraband being the autorun program, and that it's a standard CD apart from that. Can't speak for the US version, but mine is certainly not a standard CD. My computer flatly refuses to even admit to there being any CD audio tracks on there. A prog called Easy CD-DA (which I just downloaded because it claimed to be able to rip all protected CDs), lists the tracks but that still refuses to play or copy them...

Posted on 2004-06-30 00:20:28

loretian

Hrm, I checked it out and it looks like it's linux only. My coworker ripped it for me, I knew he used linux, but I thought someone else told me they were able to run it under Windows.

The software used on the Crontraband CD had previously only been an autorun program, which is what most of the documentation out there on it assume. I'm pretty sure it's something different though, cause it seems to be blocking normal ripping for some people.

Posted on 2004-06-30 04:33:32

Alex

Turns out that the copy protection on my copy is the usual autorun-bypassable version, and that the audio tracks weren't being recognised because my DVD drive doesn't like the non-standard CD. Using the disc in my CD-RW drive works perfectly, and I now have perfect copies of all 14 tracks. This must be why some people have been able to rip it and some haven't... that's really crap. Still, happy now.

Posted on 2004-06-30 18:17:34


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