ok, like does anyone out there think that some people in the verge community are too harsh?? I do.
Soo, i was wondering if anyone new of a good ( html, dhtml) code for a website forum... I need this for my site, due to the meaness pf some people... so if you know of a good source for a good vegre like forum please respond to this message... if you have a negative comment press 2, if you just donot care press 3

okok, JK

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People that are usually nice too me JRN mythrill the speed bump steven marine KarmaCult Loritian tralu the gerf people i do not like... EAR nik(k)o geyer khross

Could you tell me what I did wrong?

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Out of clutter, find simplicity. -Einstein

Now I will admit that once you get on the "Verger Newbie Blacklist" all of your posts tend to be answered with sarcasm and harshness.

But first let's look at what could cause you to be put on the blacklist:
(note: some or all of these may apply, and this list is not in any sort of order)

1. Excessive, unnecessary posts
2. Refusal to attempt to learn yourself
3. Assuming everyone has nothing better to do than to write your game for you
4. Asking the same question over and over again
5. Refusing to RTFD
6. etc...

Now, the above is just a small example of the kinds of things that could get you blacklisted...and, unfortunately, once you're blacklisted, you have to prove to the majority of the community that you really aren't as lame as they all think you are. (often not easy) So your best course of action is to avoid getting put on it in the first place.

Now, those of you who are already on it, that doesn't help too much, except I can offer a few words of wisdom to help you get off:

First of all, read the docs. After you're done, read them again. Then, find a SMALL SIMPLE piece of code (as can often be found in the tutorials on tVS (http://www.vergesource.com/)) and read through it until you can understand exactly how it works.

Secondly: while it's not necessary, a book on C/C++ is not a bad idea. You can pick up a simple "Learn C++ in 10min" book for a few dollars in any bookstore, and it will tell you enough to get you started.

Thirdly, rather than post 100 posts to a message board asking 50 different questions, do this:
- Write 1

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Praetor - Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman.

If nothing has changed since I left the Verge community, the only real way to get off the lamer list is to actually release a halfway decent demo. Also, if someone can do art, they can usually get someone to do their coding in exchange for some art done for the coder (at least, that's the way I'd like it to work). Not that there are any good artist who can't do their own code (is Spram still around?).

- Tarvok

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