1st - this is not for verge, but its good practice for any artist who wants to do it, so please don't get too mad, even though i am a large bastard

I need a drawing of a human body done with the muscles drawn, so that they can be labeled and used in a weightlifting site. I would be more than happy to provide a link to your site on our page in return, and it is a high traffic site. IF you are interested, reply here or email james@weightliftinginfo.com
Visit us at
www.weightliftinginfo.com

SO SORRY! only came here cus i know the artists are the best...
thanks

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don't be such a jackass.

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verge-rpg. it's not just a job, it's an enema.

Assuming you meant me:

*sigh* You get pissed of easily don't you? I get way too many requests like that, and they annoy me, I just felt like voicing my opinion.

And you insult me. o_O

Niko~

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to start, i did apologize like seven times in advance because i knew that some people would not like it. Niko, i think your art is truly the best I have seen pretty much anywhere. I didn't mass mail anyone, I didn't attack anyone, I came here cus I know the people are chill and I know that there are some people here who could do what I asked. Im not evil, im not trying to trick anyone, or maim little animals, I was just looking for a favor.
I'm not upset or bitter or angry, but I would agree with evilbob that you could've been a little less of a dick in your reply. Sorry to everyone

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Niko is just roosting. Most artists don't treat requests as an insult. His advice is askew from My position, and I'm one of these "artists" he referenced, of whom we feel like him...
You are not "mass requesting", you are filtering for eagerness. Obviously, niko wouldn't have helped even if you did mail him. Also, Keep acting as if you do like us, and it is all cool. Otherwise we have no grounds to assume you'd appreciate it (as if we have grounds to claim you're just trying to be cool). Keep the practice in the request. You are not doing us a misfavor through intense false advertizing, nor are you forcing the evil path of "I diswant practicing anatomy" upon niko. It is still a request, and I would appreciate the practice, even if you do mention it. and !"offense"! but verge is odviously a good place to find me, and niko, who both consider ourselves "good artists". I am my favorite artist. Niko may be above that, or he may be speaking for the other bad artists here; odviously aloof to non-e-mail requests, and not intended to condescend to hearing them. However, Niko once told me that art doesn't have to be good or bad (conviniently, he told me that after I complimented someone else, during a week of self doubt). If so he may not care wether there are some or several "good" artists, so that arguement is pretty null. niko is prone to this. In fact, niko just nulled at you above.

You did come to the right place actually. Although I may be opening the gate for "mass requesters" in his no request zone, I'll draw the muscle folk. I cannot draw it without an image to work from though. Kind of ironic, if you actually had an image all along. If you want it re-interpereted, E-mail me with more information, if you think I'll do.

A sample of my stuff is http://members.aol.com/greenness343309/images/dodongo2.jpg

Just your two cent refund as a meek artist needer.

-o^ ~* (

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"Eat phood"

I know I give it a lot...

Niko does have a point, though...a LOT of people, lately, have been coming onto the boards and asking people to make things for them.

This is not necessarily a bad thing, but the issue is how people approach the community when they ask. As Niko said, they treat it as though it were a privilege to do something for them.

I also agree with Niko that posting a mass "help me" post is not the best way to go as it is just an invite to flamers.

While I don't agree with Niko's delivery, he has a talent of saying exactly what's on his mind. He can sound a little harsh at times, but he'll give it to ya' straight. It's too bad that many people can't take it like that.

Anyway, I've rambled enough...time to call Amber ^_^

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Praetor - Strong enough for a man, but made for a woman.

Hmm.. Although I am in partial agreement with Niko, I too do not like the way he presents his answer, and I have this impression he's trying to represent all the Verge artists, which he explained in his leaving post. Lofti, I personally do not mind this kind of posts asking for an art request, although some are pretty pointless. And I can assure you that the best artists you say, aren't lying around here anymore. Look at Larswood, that's a true solid artist. And even better, when Diver Down is released, take note of Metro, you'll see what pixel goodness is all about. :)

Also, a personal note.. I believe that art is a way of expression, whatever you draw is what you want to present, so there cannot be a "good" or "bad" in that. However, what I can differentiate in "good" or "bad" art is whether the piece presents its theme clearly enough, whether it is in proper articulation and style, and mostly, whether I like it. I don't give a fart about people hating a piece of art I like.

And finally, even if you do know any artist as a friend, asking that artist friend to help you do a piece of art may be irritating, because artists draw what they want to draw, and not follow exactly to what they're told to draw. So posting on a board can attract an artist WILLING to draw for you, and I think that's ok. Personally. Also, human body drawings can be found plenty in tutorials, I suggest you start looking for some there :)

Just my 3 cents as an artist who won't be around frequently anymore :P

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Geezz guys.. you could be a little more nicer to people. Lofti needed help/support and if you are a developer/artist your should give assistance..

man, I thought the Verge community may have matured over time.. I guess I was wrong..

Explorationsv4
www.explore-rpg.com

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If you read above posts, I have been following verge for years. I've used the message boards in the past. I knew what I was doing would not go over well with some people, and I pre-apologized like 5 times in the original message, but I just didn't think it would cause this much of a problem.

Newbie board is a great idea, but I don't think it would have made a difference here.

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You're not a newbei to Verge, but you don't post too often here so you're pretty much a newbei to the community I guess.

But still, I would certainly appreciate an off-topic board where we could whine about Canadian World Domination or Peeing Tube experiments...

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-Devlyn (theshiningsource.cjb.net ) "I'm not dumb, I merely suffer from periodical intellect."