Hey, all.

Some of you may remember from such participation as 'The VERGE Repository', and empty offers like 'Verge Online? Neat! Can I help?'.

I don't recognize most of you, so most of you probably don't recognize me. /shrug

Such is life, I suppose.

Anyway, so I thought I'd stop by, say 'hi', and see if I can get an update on where things are at with the engine. I've downloaded them all, and I can't get any of them to work under Win2k. Yes, I RTFM, and yes, I know that it won't work under 2k and NT... so that's the other part of my question. The Windows version doesn't seem to work under it either, though, which makes me sad.

So where are we at?

And what the heck happened to VERGE Online? And if no one is working on it, can I get a copy of the source?

I wanna be me... no... I mean, I wanna make games!

Thanks!

For those of you who remember me, you can now reach me at: locke@devnull.sh.

/wave

-b

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Your reputation precedes you, good sir!

v2.6 runs in win2k. (I use it myself) I have to run it windowed, but I think that's a graphics card issue. (my card won't go below 640x480 for some reason) Try switching your desktop to 16bpp, then putting "window" in user.cfg before running it. You can bug me at tsb@verge-rpg.com if you want.

My latest offering, dubbed v2.7 works just dandy in win2k. You can give it a shot too, if you like. http://verge-rpg.com/~tsb/files/v27r1.zip

If it wants more DLLs, get this and dump it either in your path somewhere or in with v2.7. http://verge-rpg.com/~tsb/files/hugewadofdlls.zip

VO just... went away. :( I'd like to help too, to be honest.

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"Ignorance is its own reward" -- Proverb

yeah, that is also in the downloads section. It's called WinMapEd, i think. And although I haven't used it, I'm pretty sure it's almost complete ("all it lacks is a tile editor").

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I just went through the rest of the board, and I've noticed that people are interested in some leadership, and a general focus for the VERGE project. I'd be into that... of course, I'd need to talk to the people who are actually working on the engine (if anyone still is), as well as try to get a better feel for who is still around from the old days (Vecna [yeah right]? Lore? Grue? Zero? Anyone?), and who is part of it now-a-days -- meaning, what are you'all focusing on? Do we have any artists? Any VC heads? Any battle-engine developers? Any world designers? Any musicians?

What's the story?

I'm willing to pull this together, if people are interested in some structure.

My first thought would be to come up with a single, workable build of the engine. Then I would gather resources (people) to put together a brief demo, on that engine.

I would also build another site, probably hosted on my server, with a repository of all the assets that exist that are VERGE related. Comb through it, and see if we can't make some sense out of it. No offense to McG and evilbob (and probably Lore), this is a nice site, but it's not really a development site. It's more like a small file repository, a message board, and some brochureware.

I would build a small, fast, easy to use (and deploy!) site that incorporates all of these things, but it would initially be focused on development of the engine, and supporting the artists, game designers, and musicians that are going to use the engine. There is too much good information spread around too many different sites. We need a single site, with all of it, including the development.

I would also try to bring back VERGE Online, if I can find the source code, and then bring it up-to-date with the latest engine code.

But the really important piece for me, is incorporating all of the various engines, and engine enhancements into a single build. Period. Controlled by a select group of developers, this build would be followed up by regular bug-fix releases (maybe monthly?), and then a major release, with new features say... quarterly?

If any of this is interesting to you, let me know.

I have many more ideas, as well.

locke@devnull.sh

-b

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Seriously, you might be the only person working on "Verge", but you're not the main coder now. You're just like Wyrmdad and JL. You're simply working on your variation of "Verge" (which might just be better, Wyrmdad's V1+ is nice). I just assumed that Verge was pretty much final with the coming of aen's v2k and that verge2k+j and v2.6 were well-meaning and effective (well, in my case) attempts at satisfying the demands of others.

Anywho, when the offical dev team labels you the main coder then I'll accept it. Otherwise, please refrain from saying that. I mean, I could always do the same. :P

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No one. As I had said in my statement, I consider v2k is be the final version. Anything else is simply a variation. Whether it be good or bad, used or not.

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You are the essence of annoyance... you are once more dictating - YOU consider v2k final and anything else is a variation. However, tSB can NOT call himself main coder even if he is doing all the code and still coding for VERGE. Are you too clouded to understand what you are writing?

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zaril@hellven.org - ICQ 7698022

Stop being an idiot.

If you don't like tSB or where the scene is going, then just leave. Don't use it. Don't bother us.

I'll agree with you that tSB's 2.7 engine isn't 'officially sanctioned' or anything- neither were his 2.6 offerings- but nothing verge was since v2. Now if you want to sit and say verge is dead until vecna, aen, or whoever from the original dev teams comes out and releases something, well I don't really see the point. In that sense, yes, the official old-school verge is dead. Fine. Be happy with that.

But over the last year tons of vergers have already delved into unofficial engines. And 2.7 is being made. That's where this verge *community* is- in the present (regardless of where you want to be).

And if anyone asked me who was the main developer now I'd say tSB as well. Just calling it like I see it.

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