1) It doesnt work. Period. Time after time, demo after demo, the thing just starts up, tries to change the vidmode, and then exits or freezes up. Constant updates and lengthy downloads dont seem to help this. Also, on another computer, v2.6 worked! Only to crash directly after displaying the beginning of my map (yes, I was trying my own project)...Anyway, if anyone has an explanation of this odd behavior I'd be happy to hear it.

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-- Lunarbeam @

Run it with these options in user.cfg:

safemode
hicolor
window
log

(among any others you want)

Now, run it. If you get a plain gray window, switch your desktop resolution to 16bpp. Try again.

If it dies hardcore, check the log file. What's the last thing it does before bombing out? It would be most helpful.

Thanks!

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'Never confuse a single defeat with a final defeat.' -F. Scott Fitzgerald

Okies, I ran it with those options...and recieved a rather distressing illegal operation msg.

Here is the log:
v2.6 startup. Logfile initialized.
Sys: Initializing keyboard handler.... OK
Sys: Initializing timer. Set 100hz.... OK
Sys: Initializing music system.... OK
Sys: Initializing graphics.... OK
Initialize console.Could not open GIF file console.gif.
... OK
Loading 8 bit translucency table... OK
Loading system VCInitializing VC interpreter
system vclib init: 53 funcs, 266 ints (9572 bytes), 46 strings
... OK

Also, here's the dump from the illegal operation window:
BATTLE executed an invalid instruction in
module BATTLE.EXE at 017f:0041c0e6.
(Registers and stack dump, yada yada...)

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-- Lunarbeam @

The new logfile from the new (still crashing) version:

"v2.6 startup. Logfile initialized.
Sys: Initializing keyboard handler.... OK
Sys: Initializing timer. Set 100hz.... OK
Sys: Initializing music system.... OK
Sys: Initializing graphics.... OK
Initialize console.Could not open GIF file console.gif.
... OK
Loading 8 bit translucency table... OK
Loading system VCInitializing VC interpreter
system vclib init: 53 funcs, 266 ints (9572 bytes), 46 strings
... OK
Made it as far as autoexec.
-- VC opened file monster.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- VC opened file wearable.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- VC opened file useable.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- VC opened file weapons.dat, Handle 1
# 1 Knife
# 2 Baton
# 3 Katana
# 4 AK-47_Assault
# 5 AR-33_Plus_Grenade
# 6 Barrett_.50
# 7 Winchester_shotgun
# 8 HK_57
# 9 S.W.A.T._rifle
# 10 Walther_semi-auto
# 11 .357_magnum
# 12 Glock_17
-- VC closed file 1
-- VC opened file ammodat.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- VC opened file a_attack.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- VC opened file a_reload.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- VC opened file a_special.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- VC opened file monanim.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
initgame() finished"

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-- Lunarbeam @

Side note: when it gives me the ilegal operation message it also leaves a window open, the title of which is "Verge 2.6". Try as I might, I havent been able to close this without a restart. End task hasn't worked either; from what I've gleaned out of the End Task window its name is "winoldapp".

Well, I guess I'd better go d/l the new version now. Here are the logs:
[i]"v2.6 startup. Logfile initialized.
Sys: Initializing keyboard handler.... OK
Sys: Initializing timer. Set 100hz.... OK
Sys: Initializing music system.... OK
Sys: Initializing graphics.... OK
Initialize console.Could not open GIF file console.gif.
... OK
Loading 8 bit translucency table... OK
Loading system VCInitializing VC interpreter
system vclib init: 53 funcs, 266 ints (9572 bytes), 46 strings
... OK
-- Entering user func initgame, codeofs 14738
-- Entering user func loadsongdata, codeofs 13742
-- Returned from loadsongdata
-- Entering user func loadcolors, codeofs 16307
-- Returned from loadcolors
-- Entering user func loaddata, codeofs 7462
-- Entering user func loadelementdata, codeofs 7664
-- Returned from loadelementdata
-- Entering user func loadmonsters, codeofs 7868
-- VC opened file monster.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- Returned from loadmonsters
-- Entering user func loadwearabledata, codeofs 9417
-- VC opened file wearable.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- Returned from loadwearabledata
-- Entering user func loaduseabledata, codeofs 9827
-- VC opened file useable.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- Returned from loaduseabledata
-- Entering user func loadweapondata, codeofs 10181
-- VC opened file weapons.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- Returned from loadweapondata
-- Entering user func loadammodata, codeofs 10689
-- VC opened file ammodat.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- Returned from loadammodata
-- Returned from loaddata
-- Entering user func loadanimstrings, codeofs 0
-- VC opened file a_attack.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- VC opened file a_reload.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- VC opened file a_special.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- VC opened file monanim.dat, Handle 1
-- VC closed file 1
-- Returned from loadanimstrings
-- Entering user func loadcustomdefault, codeofs 7481
-- Returned from loadcustomdefault
initgame() finished
-- Returned from initgame
-- Entering user func showitfor, codeofs 15126"[/i]

Heh, excuse me, I have to go restart...:P

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-- Lunarbeam @

Here's what showitfor does, it was passed a 1:

void showitfor(int ticks)
{
int stop;
showpage();
stop=timer+ticks;
while(timer<=stop)
{
updatecontrols();
}
}

I have no idea why this would crash... anyone else?

Thanks Lunarbeam, for going through all that. I hope it helps find this bug... Verge must work for all!

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-Pontifex
"How many rocks are there, in the whole world?"