1. Does anyone know a good way to convert IT music to XM?

2. I think there was a version of V2.7 that used VC, before all this python stuff. Does anyone know where I can get that?

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There WAS a VC-based V27, but it was never really completed. It was called VERGE 2.7 beta 7. I don't have it anymore. Sorry.

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If you help me, thank you for your help. If you read my posts, thanks for taking the time to do so. If you did not even read the post than how the heck did you see this?

Well, I know Pascal, C, C++, Delphi, Java, PHP and some X86 Assembler but I still believe that Python is more than your average scripting language. That, and it is probably the most suitable language for VERGE.

And about learning C... C is a procedural, old piece of ****, IMHO. Go read "Thinking in C++".

Regarding .exe files: Do you really think that VB is "better" than python because it can generate exes?

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Give someone a program and you'll frustrate them for a day, teach someone how to program und you'll frustrate them for a lifetime.

nt

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Give someone a program and you'll frustrate them for a day, teach someone how to program und you'll frustrate them for a lifetime.

Jump off a cliff? WHAT?! BROTHER! Let's kamikaze dive together!

Python probably is, no, IT IS (especially since...feh, not even going to bother, let's save that for when we are 50 and can't throw posion vipers at each other). But I'm not in a rush to really use it. I mean, what can it really offer me? L33t script kiddie tricks? COME ON! Most of what I need to do is possible in V2C. But much more is possibly in Python and I can convert my VC code as well? Yeah, I can do much more in Python and I can convert my code. Those are good reasons but do I want to switch, no.

So why I'm just here screaming? Because you're pretty much suggesting that everyone conform and use Python. FOR THE COLLECTIVE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE. Pshaw. Let people make thier own decisions. Can you recall the giant bales of crop holding up small children?

As for C being a piece of crap, then why are people still using it? Hell, why are people use C++ like C? I've seen it a lot.

No, I think QBasic is better than Python. I'm blowing chunks that you would dare think that I favor VB over Python. *takes out his Holy Staff of Ra* Away with you, fiend that plots against the sun, Away! Heh, joking.

Seriously, leave people to what they want. If I see one more person pointing out v2.7 when the person wants v2k, I'm gonna scream. And maybe if v2k+j proves to really quacked up, then I use v2.7 out of necessity as opposed to it just being the "hip rad fad thing that all of the krazy kats are chugaladaicious about."

A memo to all you are probably just dying to TEAR me INTO PIECES like our friend, Claude Kenni, because I supposedly hate Python. Read on.

A lot of people assume that I hate Python, please know that I don't. It's on my computer, I use it, I like it, but that doesn't mean I'm SO into it. It isn't my one and only love. You won't see me on passionate nights alone scripting away in my basement with Python.

It's a good, no, GREAT scripting language, but that doesn't mean I prefer it over QBasic (But you should, awww, come on, NO!). My tastes are up to me to decide. So please stop trying to rip out my tongue and insert yours in it's place. Sheesh. I think that's the only thing that I'm clamoring for now. Some damn tolerance.

Another memo to the people say that I'm always forcing my opinion on them.

I'm not. If you think I am, it's because your Will save is at +0 or I'm making sense. It can't possibly be the latter...:P

Argh, this is the help board. Let's just drop this now.

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Who can someone write something so long and still utterly pointless?

Regarding C: I said that it is bad mainly because of its lack of OO, so please don't expand that statement on C++.

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Give someone a program and you'll frustrate them for a day, teach someone how to program und you'll frustrate them for a lifetime.

=P

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SmokeDog, High Lord King of Redundancy!!! [Enter Gratiutious and Profound signature file here.]

I don't always use OOP but i prefer C++ because i have the option to use it if i decide it is warranted. I also like the fact that it is more heavily type controllecd(it saves me from crashing while i debug).

Basic is actually a pretty nice language. has anyone else checked out DarkBASIC?

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You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. I'm entitled to point out facts, by the same token.

When you really really look at it, scripting is scripting.

No.

You're confusing "real programming languages" with "low level programming languages".

A low level language is one which is closer to the machine. I'll readily agree that most high level langauges are incapable of writing things like OS kernels, due to their interpreted natures. D (a proposed successor to C and C++) is a notable exception. It's very C/++ like, with objects and the whole bit. D compiles to machine code too. It is also much higher level, featuring native string, vector, and complex number types. It's also garbage collected. Sound familiar?

A "real programming langauge" is one in which useful applications may be made. No more, no less. You yourself have acknowledged that Python is capable of exactly that.

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"Ignorance is its own reward" -- Proverb

thanks for that tidbit...

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