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XxChaosXslayerxX

Hey, has anyone used http://www.BYOND.com? Well if you have just drop me a line. I have 2 e-mails; Neobahamot33@aol.com, and Neobahamot@gmail.com. Neobahamot@gmail.com I can check everyday, the AOL one I don't know when I can check. I need help making an RPG.

Posted on 2006-03-12 14:10:28

XxChaosXslayerxX

hey can someone help me out here?

Posted on 2006-03-15 19:31:10

Interference22

We can help you with VERGE. This is a website for people who want to use VERGE. It is not a website for BYOND.

Posted on 2006-03-17 18:03:40

mastercain

What does BYOND stand for? Bring Your Own Nude Demon?

Posted on 2006-03-18 00:45:03

Time_Wizard

Quote:Originally posted by mastercain

What does BYOND stand for? Bring Your Own Nude Demon?

Awful.

Posted on 2006-03-18 01:27:32

XxChaosXslayerxX

wow u guys are flipping helpful, nvm then if ur gonna be a jackass about it jesus. It's called general disscusion, which means u can discuss anything.....so if you want to help me then be my guest, instead of putting me down, btw:BYOND is by far a better program to make games than verge is, you can't even use verge. dam


p.s BYOND stands for Build Your Own Net Dream, you actually code the games u make heres a snippet of my code:
mob
Login()
usr.icon_state = input("What gender?") in list ("Male","Female")
usr.Move (locate(1,1,1))
Stat()
..()
statpanel("Stats")//Stats
stat("Health",hp)
stat("Attack Power",str)
stat("Defence Power",def)
statpanel("Items",contents)
verb
Check(mob/M as mob in view())
usr << "[M] health equals [M.hp]."
usr << "[M] strength equals [M.str]."
usr << "[M] defence equals [M.def]."
Attack(mob/M as mob in oview(1))
var/damage = usr.str - M.def
if(damage <= 0)
usr << "[M] easily defends your attack!"
M << "You easily defend [usr]'s attack."
else
M.hp -= damage
view() << "[usr] attacks [M] for [damage] health!"
M:deathcheck()
you wouldn't understand this..........hahahaha..unless of course u have tried it

Posted on 2006-03-18 11:19:21

Overkill

Quote:Originally posted by XxChaosXslayerxX

wow u guys are flipping helpful, nvm then if ur gonna be a jackass about it jesus. It's called general disscusion, which means u can discuss anything.....

Well, general discussion on a forum dedicated to a game engine usually (like 100% of the time) means don't discuss the competition, unless you've made a full game with said engine and you'd really like to share it with the community. Otherwise you're just becoming a major annoyance.

so if you want to help me then be my guest, instead of putting me down, btw:BYOND is by far a better program to makegames than verge is,
Look. We don't use BYOND, so any answer you get is not going to be hepful. If you want help, go to a BYOND forum and stop being such a tool.

you can't even use verge. dam
You're obviously ignorant to the multitudes who already made games and demos with it.


p.s BYOND stands for Build Your Own Net Dream, you actually code the games u make

Funny, in Verge, ika and Sphere, that's the case too. You haven't found any original toolset on your hands there.


heres a snippet of my code:
mob
Login()
usr.icon_state = input("What gender?") in list ("Male","Female")
usr.Move (locate(1,1,1))
Stat()
..()
statpanel("Stats")//Stats
stat("Health",hp)
stat("Attack Power",str)
stat("Defence Power",def)
statpanel("Items",contents)
verb
Check(mob/M as mob in view())
usr << "[M] health equals [M.hp]."
usr << "[M] strength equals [M.str]."
usr << "[M] defence equals [M.def]."
Attack(mob/M as mob in oview(1))
var/damage = usr.str - M.def
if(damage <= 0)
usr << "[M] easily defends your attack!"
M << "You easily defend [usr]'s attack."
else
M.hp -= damage
view() << "[usr] attacks [M] for [damage] health!"
M:deathcheck()
you wouldn't understand this..........hahahaha..unless of course u have tried it

Actually, without even touching the engine I understand most of it. It's pretty ugly code, I might add.

I'm gonna ask you one time to kindly drop the topic of BYOND, because we don't use it and you're quickly becoming an annoyance, and you're breaking the rules!

  1. Play nice.
  2. Don't suck.

Continually breaking these two awesome rules will likely result in total banination. Just a heads-up.

Posted on 2006-03-18 17:03:04 (last edited on 2006-03-18 17:03:27)

Interference22

Quote:Originally posted by XxChaosXslayerxX

wow u guys are flipping helpful, nvm then if ur gonna be a jackass about it jesus. It's called general disscusion, which means u can discuss anything.....


Like Overkill said, if you'd actually read the rules then you'd understand that what you just said was utter rubbish. How can you expect us to help you if you can't even help yourself?

And yes, I know what BYOND is. It seemed vaguely appealing since the netcode is a little more inclusive than VERGE's is but the coding language is strict, ugly and unyielding.

The only reason people don't "get" VERGE is because it aims for a very wide scope (ie. you can do a whole lot of stuff with what it has to offer). People new to (or at a fairly amateur level of) coding freak out because it's a lot to take in at once.

The point is that you're not supposed to: take it slow, commit yourself to learning how to code little by little and the rewards are immense.

If you don't have the time or are simply impatient in nature then bugger off. Otherwise, knuckle down and do some reading.

Posted on 2006-03-18 17:34:44

CrazyAznGamer

Quote:Originally posted by XxChaosXslayerxX

It's called general disscusion, which means u can discuss anything.....so if you want to help me then be my guest, instead of putting me down, btw:BYOND is by far a better program to make games than verge is, you can't even use verge. dam

We have a place called Castle Heck. That's usually where we just talk about random crap. Here, in general discussion, all topics are at least mildly related to VERGE, gamemaking, etc. Yes, I do realize BYOND is a game engine, but still.... I mean.... show some respekt mmk? If you feel the slightest inkling you'll cross a fine line here: do it in Castle Heck (as long as it doesn't contain porn. If it does,... well... you're on your own [On a side note, we'll probably get a laugh in before mercilessly defaming anybody for pr0n]).

Most of us(and by most of us, I mean all of us) are not inexperienced with coding/scripting. VERGE, as mentioned in the DOCS (read them), is a game-making engine WITHOUT a graphical user interface. We don't SPOON-FEED you a text editor from the application because we don't NEED to (hopefully, though everybody should have some form of text editing such as Notepad, vi, etc.). And so far, you (from what I remember of this community) happen to be the only person who, after being pointed in the right direction, still don't understand how the engine works. New people in this community DO tend to know how to use Verge (after an HONEST effort).

And Verge is only an engine. The game is good only if the game is good, not if the engine is. In that respect, I don't give a damn (note: not a river blocking hydroelectric plant sort of thing) about BYOND, and if games on there are good, then kudos to the author for being so smart (or insane, for that matter).

Posted on 2006-03-18 17:35:00

XxChaosXslayerxX

ok when you download BYOND, you have to make a key(account name) and password, me having aol;blocks this feature. So to make a long story short, I can't access the BYOND forums. So..since this is a game engine where u use code, I figured that by leaving a nice message about BYOND and how I need help;then someone would kindly help me out. Not be a cocky bastard and totally discourage me. Because that is not how you make friends...I just wanted a simple "yes" or "no", as to whether you ahve used it or not;and if you did could u help me. I have made almost a complete game...but I am lacking a few things(in coding) to complete it, there fore asking for some advice. Wow...u guys need to chill out, it's only a forum..don't like it then don't read it god.

Posted on 2006-03-19 11:15:52 (last edited on 2006-03-19 11:16:17)

Interference22

I think my initial response on this matter was concise enough to indicate that we have little to no experience with BYOND. Just because VERGE is a game engine and BYOND is a game engine doesn't mean they share anything else in common.

And that "it's only a forum" crap doesn't wash with me. It might look like a page of text but you're still dealing with people: people who don't relish the prospect of re-instating the fairly obvious.

Posted on 2006-03-19 17:29:16

XxChaosXslayerxX

ok we got off on the wrong foot. let's start again....Hi My name is XxchaosXslayerxX, and I am a programmer in need of some help. Maybe you have tried out this game engine, maybe not. It's called BYOND. Now IDK if it's ok or not but I was waondering if someone could show/tell me how to get the verge client to actually make games with verge. thank you please help if you can, i'm out-XxchaosXslayerxX

Posted on 2006-03-20 14:25:52

Overkill

Some advice!

Posted on 2006-03-20 14:35:15

Interference22

Perhaps a little patronising, Overkill. But hey, if it gets the job done..

Posted on 2006-03-20 16:24:21

XxChaosXslayerxX

how do i get an avatar? ok I have animal crossing and mario kart ds to I will be playing mario kart ds on saturday at 10:30.
so go on the server at the same time yo. later.

Posted on 2006-04-12 11:51:18

Interference22

Quote:Originally posted by XxChaosXslayerxX

how do i get an avatar? ok I have animal crossing and mario kart ds to I will be playing mario kart ds on saturday at 10:30.
so go on the server at the same time yo. later.


Good question. You get an avatar by uploading something good you did in Verge. I got mine by uploading a system for managing textboxes. You could get one by uploading a useful system, a short game, a demo of what you're working on or even by uploading some tilesets or useable entity art for public use.

Basically, making cool stuff is encouraged. First there's the avatar, then if you're really good you might even do something that McGrue or Gayo considers exemplary enough to devote a whole front page news item on (*cough*Ustor*cough*). Kudos from others and responses from people using your stuff will bring a warm happy feeling.

Not so sure about the DS thing, though. Friends codes are just in case. I live in the UK, so different time periods may cause issues if you're in the US. Plus (sadly) it's not often I get to use someone's wireless access point. Still, I live in hope :-).

Posted on 2006-04-12 17:22:42


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