I have a question about verge. Ummm, I downloaded a bunch of stuff from the begginners resource thing, but I only have mapped and packed. How do I make games? Or where can I download the thing TO make them. Where do I go to download it? please help thanks.

Oh for crying out loud, this is the third post in just as many days from a newcomer to VERGE who isn't reading the damn Readme.txt.

Try the tutorials. Don't know where they are on the site? They're in BRIGHT ORANGE: "Beginners' Resources." Hell, there are at least three seperate links to them on the main page alone.

Grr. Earwig is Angry.

Quote:Originally posted by Omni

Earwig?

Nevermind. Obscure, private joke. It's the name of an Adventure Games Studio game in which you play a homicidal child in a dinosaur costume called Earwig. It opens with a photo of his medical report, the bottom line reading: "Prognosis: Earwig is ANGRY."

Yes.

Anyway. Back on topic.. Moral of the story: please, don't just download the tutorials, read them. We get somewhat cross with anyone who ignores all the help already on offer and expects everyone to virtually make their game for them.

*SMACK*. Shut up and listen.

Yes, I am a deeply harsh and bitter human being. The Universe does not favour the weak: we must trample on the bastards.

No true offense meant, but if you claim you have searched the site from top to bottom, and you cannot find anything -- then you are either lying about searching thoroughly, or lying about finding something, or you don't know what you're talking about. There are plenty of resources to get started with.

If you want to use another game maker, that's perfectly fine. Many other makers are a lot easier to use than Verge. But if you don't want to use Verge, then don't. And if you do, it is perfectly possible to learn how to use it.

Quote:Originally posted by XxChaosXslayerxX

*shoots interference22 in the face with a 12 guage*. no u shutup and listen, I am not weak, ur sight is just a horrible way of makinggames, condidering i downloaded like every file on here and none of them is a game maker, I tried uploadign one my games i have made (Reign of Chaos) and it siad error cannot process page....so eat my shorts u pompous jackass.

I will only tolerate you while I find you amusing. Contrary to your attempt to rile me I found your last post both stimulating and amusing, although I doubt you have the determination and slew of serious mental issues required to actually shoot me in the face.

Firstly, upload woes: uploads must be VERGE-specific and adhere to the guidelines stated on the upload page. At the time I posted this, it appears the uploads page is broken. A quick inquiry in the website issues forum would have been helpful.

Secondly, Reign of Chaos? You do know Blizzard Entertainment already used that title for a very high profile game? *cough*Warcraft 3*cough*. That would be like me calling a game Deus Ex: no matter how good the game is, it's never going to shake off the shadow of a certain JC Denton et al. Names matter, you know. Using other peoples' leads to confusion and accusations of amateurishness and plagiarism.

Finally, please spell-check your posts. What you type is all we have to go on in determining who we are talking with. If you spell every other word incorrectly and ignore punctuation entirely then everyone is going to mentally visualise you as a dribbling twelve-year-old.

alright,alright.....I am not 12, I am 16 going on 17 real soon. I can spell but on the computer i tend not to care as much. If you had even the slightest of brains u could realize what I am trying to say. Ok I have looked at the docs I have downloaded the folowing:Win_Sully_20051211, and some mapped3.exe, and tutgame, what do I download to make games with verge? I am honestly asking for help, please help me to download what i need to make the games.thank you.

P.S.I apoligize to everyone on the site about everything I have done/said to anyone. And I hope that we can start over and all be friends cuz this is ridiculous fighting about this gay shit. I am willing if you guys are.

Thank you. And yes, I can clearly understand what you're trying to say but my concern is that your putting less effort in making posts look neat and tidy could be misconstrued as an indication of your character. Which is bad.

Anyhow. Overkill's tutorial and the slew of documentation on this site should teach you how to use VERGE effectively. Notably, the aim is to teach you how to code in VERGE's scripting language, show you which files you'll be using to make and distribute your game and what sort of external programs you should use to create art and sound for your game.

Well, you don't have an actual dedicated program that you type the code into.

BUT, you can use Notepad or the like, open a .vc file, and simply edit the code that way. When you want to run your code, you click verge.exe and it'll try and go run it.

So, yes you do need to write code. No, it doesn't have an IDE or editor builtin. But code is just plain text, so that's why can use Notepad or Textpad or some other text-only text editor to write a program. The tutorials get right to the basics of editting the code, and even suggest a few programs that you can use.

Quote:Originally posted by Interference22

Ludicrous flexability means that (with the right sort of effort) you can make RPGs, platformers or - hell - even an image editing program.
Vecna, VERGE's creator, never created an Integrated Development Environment (IDE) for writing code in and most (if not all) of us get by without one anyway.
Most of us use Paintshop Pro (or a similar art package) to draw our graphics
Adding on to Interference's comments:

There actually is a sort of IDE in development for VERGE (created by creek23). I'm not sure what its current status is, but if you must, you can give it a ganders.

HOWEVER, it is still in development (if its being developed), and most of us will still recommend Textpad + syntax highlighting.

I remember when I started to try and use Verge. Yes, it's a lot of work to figure out, but, repeating what Interference says, it is VERY flexible (for a game-scripting language). Not only that, but the language is very closely tied to C/C++ (which helps some people get in the groove, including me).

Besides that, I find that its best not to worry too much about making graphics while still learning with VERGE. That'll come later :P.
And speaking of graphics, if putting it together pixel by pixel minus any fancy tools to help you is your thing, then use Paint or GraphicsGale(Japanese pixelling program that I use. Has smaller palettes, but unless you're really experienced, you'll probably do better in paint.).

Music... well... trackers like ModPlug, ScreamTracker, etc. can produce .mod music tracks. And hopefully, you know the VAST amount of programs able to produce MP3s (though mod related tracks are MUCH smaller in size). And let's not forget the plethora of other filetypes....
Of course, these take MUCH skill to produce (I've tried before, and Rysen, MusicKnight, and Troupe are three from this community I know can produce quality stuff like this).