I'm not entirely sure about this myself, despite being one of the developers. This gives me the impression that it was probably just talked about and not really added to the engine. I could be mistaken though.

However, as far as forum etiquette junk, I'll just say a couple guidelines I try following mostly. You should prefer to edit your posts over double posting.

But if a long enough period of time (about a day) has passed and you have something new to say in the same topic, feel free to add it. When quoting multiple people through separate replies you might find yourself double posting too, occasionally.

Don't bump a topic just because someone hasn't responded.

For help-related things, create a new topic whenever you have a new question to discuss. Things that are tied together, like a bunch of starting questions, or similar errors, you probably wanna put in the same thread.

In other forums, like General Discussion or Castle Heck you can post more frequently, just make engaging topics if possible!

A few new topics a week is what I'd call a "good" frequency for anyone. Replies to existing threads are fine as long as they're "recent".

Eek, I sound sort of robotic right now since I need sleep. Anyways, just think of it this way: Be friendly, but avoid being annoying, and you're set. :D

Hey goldengamer, welcome to the forums! I'll try to see if I can sort out your questions for you... Please, if anyone else spots something I got wrong jump in and correct me.

Quote:Originally posted by Goldengamer111

How would I go about using subfolders, then? I have the possibility of having a lot of maps, and grouping them in folders would help very much in keeping them organized. I tried putting the map-related files in one folder, to be expanded with more folders later, and calling "FolderName/MapName", but the maps wouldn't run, telling me that it couldn't find the .vsp file for my first room. I moved the .vsp files to the main folder, which is still more than I would like in there, but the map scripts wouldn't run (and wouldn't even after I moved them to the main folder; there is probably a problem in my code somewhere). Once the .vsp's and the .vc's are there, however, I might have just left everything in the system folder, as it has enough stuff to not make separating the files efficient.
Unfortunately, Verge won't currently support having maps (or map code .vc files, or .vsp files) stuck in any folder other than the root folder (where you've got your verge3.exe). Believe me, I feel your pain. This is something I'd really like to see sorted out in the engine but just hasn't been cleared up yet. You know... I think I even remember looking into this and finding a really weird reason behind this but it's been a while... hrm.

Quote:Originally posted by Goldengamer111

Finally, a few last questions. Is there any way to change the icon and name of the (currently) verge.exe,
You can just rename verge.exe to whatever you want, it will still run fine. Changing the icon requires you to recompile the engine with a different icon stuck into the resources. There might be a better way to go about this but offhand I'm not sure what it is.

Quote:Originally posted by Goldengamer111

is there any way that "patches" could be created without ruining save files,
You're going to be writing your own save file saving and loading, so as long as you write it to deal with this, then it will. Sorry that this is kind of a weak answer, but there really is no 'official' verge savefile format or anything so it really comes down to your code.

Quote:Originally posted by Goldengamer111

and in which file can I find Sully's "V3" splash screen?
The whole intro thing is inside of v3splash320.vpk, which is a verge pack file. It's included by the line

mount1 v3splash320.vpk

in verge.cfg, and is called via

v3splash();
// or alternatively
callFunction("v3splash");
// which will try to call it but not fail badly if your forgot to
// mount the pack file


Quote:Originally posted by Goldengamer111

EDIT: I am also having a problem with Maped: when I place an entity and reload the map, as well as run the game, the entity disappears.
Okay seriously someone needs to release a fix for this. The problem here is that when you "Save" in Maped it doesn't always... save. The workaround here is to always use "Save As", which does not fall prey to the same problem. Again, I feel your pain. I really do.

do this: windowSetSize(gamewindow,640,480);

Thanks for the workaround, but I don't need it anymore. The problem (as Kildorf pointed out) was that Maped didn't always save the .map files. Just as long as I use Save As instead of Save (or possibly - untested - change a tile in the map and then change it back, just so Maped will think that something has changed), the entities will appear in the game. Also, I might have realized something about the problem which this thread is named after: that function might have been for LuaVerge (thanks for mentioning Lua in your post, ustor!). Still not sure about it, though.

Oh, sorry. I guess it was I who misunderstood. I don't think that it has that function either, but it might explain why I can't find it. I think that it would be nice if they added the ability to change the path, but I am fine without it. As I said before, though, I should be fine with keeping all of my files in the main folder for now, but I will consider your solution if my game expands greatly later.

Quote:Originally posted by Goldengamer111


struct TrueTime
{
int TrueYear; // Line 30
int TrueMonth;
int TrueDayOfWeek;
int TrueDay;
int TrueHour;
int TrueMinute;
int TrueSecond;
}


That only defines the components of the struct. To actually assign values, you'll have to create an instance of it, e.g:

TrueTime CurrentTime;

And then you'll need to set the values for that instance:

void SetCurrentTime()

{					// Line 40

	CurrentTime.TrueYear = sysdate.year;

	CurrentTime.TrueMonth = sysdate.month;

	CurrentTime.TrueDayOfWeek = sysdate.dayofweek; 

	CurrentTime.TrueDay = sysdate.day;

	CurrentTime.TrueHour = systime.hour;

	CurrentTime.TrueMinute = systime.minute;

	CurrentTime.TrueSecond = systime.second;

}

It's been a while since I did any vc/struct stuff, but hopefully that solves the problem.

You need to make sure that a system.vc exists in the exact same folder as verge.exe. It cannot be in a subfolder. But any script that system.vc might #include can be in separate folder (but must specifically listed with the relative path to it). There is no way to change this. system.vc must appear in the base folder of the engine.

Either that, or you need to go into "releasemode 1", which expects system.xvc. But that's for games when you're no longer modifying any code. Not something you do until you're sending your game to other people!

Weird cases: make sure system.vc has read permissions for all, and that if you're running from a shortcut, you properly initialize the working directory in the properties.

I am having problems with my code. I have #defined E_PROF to be 2, the index of my professor entity, and am calling it in lines resembling those below.

entity.x[E_PROF] = 6*16;

entity.y[E_PROF] = 9*16+6;

entity.speed[E_PROF] = 100;

This code is returning an error: "Could not resolve identifier ']'!" I have done a similar thing with some of my other characters, E_GIRL (0) and E_MAN (1), and E_GIRL appears before E_PROF in my code, but I am not getting any errors with her.

Looking in the v3.txt file, the line directly above the line declaring the exit stats that "warning: 'E_PROF' : macro redefinition". Could that be because I have already defined "E_PROF" in another map? Shouldn't they be reset when the map switches?

EDIT: I just want to make it clear: the lines above are example lines. Every line with an "E_PROF" is giving my the error, even if it is something like "EntityMove(E_PROF, "r16f0");", though in that line it complains about the comma.

Quote:Originally posted by Overkill

Oh, and make sure you only put #defines in system.vc. Don't put them in the map scripts. That isn't even supposed to work. :(Okay. It seems as though it does work, however. A bug in the compiler (or wherever this bug would be), perhaps?

So your best bet is just use the numbers of the entities directly.

Or make yourself some helper functions:

int GetProfEnt()

{

    return 2;

}

Then call that to get the entity number.Thanks, this should work. Also, not to repeat myself, but can I use something like "window.x" or "window.y" to get the position of the game window, and do you have any pointers for creating a custom wander code for my entities (details are a few posts up)?

Resident: There are no camera.x, camera.y. But you're close!

Anyway, rifling through random documentation here.

To manipulate the camera viewport in the window, use xwin/ywin, and make sure cameratracking is 0. If you wanna follow a non-player entity, you can set cameratracking to 2 and set cameratracker to the ent to follow.

As far as the real window (as in with the frame and minimize/maximize/close buttons and whatnot) used by the game, you shouldn't really rely on that, as the windowing functions aren't exactly supported when you run your game outside of Windows. You've been warned. Anyway, you can read about it here: http://verge-rpg.com/docs/view.php?libid=1&section=28