V3 (I think): Problems with fullscreen
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sabin_xiii

I'm new to Verge. It looks like a cool system, and I'll have fun trying to make a game or two with it. However, I'm having trouble getting fullscreen to work properly. I downloaded The Sully Chronicles, and I've tried running it with windowed set to '0' in verge.cfg, with automax set to both '0' AND '1' (on two seperate runs, of course), but in both cases the same thing happens: The game stays at 320x240 resolution and displays in the upper left corner of the screen, while the rest of the screen shows my desktop and flickers rapidly (the game screen, oddly enough, works just fine). The game works OK if I run it in windowed mode, but... you know. I want the screen filled out.

I'm running Windows XP, if that helps any. If any other info is required, let me know.

Posted on 2005-08-04 15:05:35

Overkill

Full screen support is based on your monitor's resolution capabilities. So, a ludicrously low resolution of 320x400 would be a bad thing to do on some monitors. The better thing to do is: Set windowmode to 1, and set automax to your preference. Then it'll work nicely. If it's too small, resize the window! :o Full screen is kind of stupid anyway. Windowed mode for the win.

Posted on 2005-08-04 15:40:50

Overkill

If one could edit, I'd additionally add automax means nothing in fullscreen.

Posted on 2005-08-04 15:41:59

sabin_xiii

That's what I figured, but it was worth a shot, at least.

Also, I noticed you could just run a full windowed mode, but if I do that, since it needs to allow space for the window heading and taskbar, instead of running at a clean 1024x768 it runs at an awkward 949x712. If there's no way to fix it, I guess I could live with that, maybe figure out an easy way to at least widen the window to 800x600. But I would still prefer fullscreen, so if there's a way to fix it I'd like to know.

Posted on 2005-08-04 16:14:06

Omni

The reason why your fullscreen does not consume your entire monitor may be related to BIOS settings for the screen. Are you running on a laptop or LCD?

Whether or not you are, you might want to check your PC's BIOS settings on startup, or your Advanced Properties on the display tab. Often your display will have the function to 'scale any resolution to full monitor size' which will do what you need, and many times, this is disabled.

Nothing's wrong with 320x240 fullscreen, by the way. Matter of perspective.

Posted on 2005-08-04 16:35:12

sabin_xiii

Advanced Properties on the display tab of what, exactly?

Posted on 2005-08-04 18:12:28

Omni

Display Properties Window. You know...right click on desktop, then click properties? Or Control Panel -- Display -- Settings tab?

Once there you click the button that says 'Advanced' to bring up a spiffy dialogue for your display and graphics card. Fumble around to see if you can find any useful features.

For example, on my ATI card for my laptop, once I go into Advanced Properties, there is a 'Display' tab that lists all display outputs on my card -- SVideo, LCD, Monitor, etc. And I can click on the LCD entry and it will give me a neato option such as 'scale resolution to full LCD panel size.' Just look around your video options.

And, if you can't find it there, check your BIOS setup when your computer turns on.

Posted on 2005-08-04 18:47:56

sabin_xiii

Okay, I tried the Properties thing and looked through all the advanced features, but I can't find anything, so now I have to ask how to boot into BIOS mode. I don't like to keep asking for details, but I've already run a search for this information on the net and have come up with nothing useful. (As per the suggestions I DID find, I've tried hitting delete on one boot and F2 on another, but in both cases it continued to start Windows normally.)

Posted on 2005-08-04 20:31:18

Omni

...c'mon! This is supposed to be the point where you say 'Yes, Omni, thanks for the wonderful advice, everything works perfectly!'

Doesn't your computer, upon startup when your PC boots, right before the WinXP screen appears, display something not unlike 'Press Delete/F8/F2/whatever for setup'?

Posted on 2005-08-04 20:40:09

sabin_xiii

I AM thankful for the help, it's just that so far my problem's not solved yet. I think we're almost there, though.

There is one setup screen I've accessed before to restart the comp in safe mode and things of that nature, but I didn't think it was the same options screen since it doesn't mention a BIOS mode anywhere. However, it seems to fit your descriptions so far, so here's a list of all the options it offers:

Safe Mode
Safe Mode with Networking
Safe Mode with Command Prompt

Enable Boot Logging
Enable VGA Mode
Last Known Good Configuration
Directory Services Restore Mode
Debugging Mode
Disable automatic restart on system failure

Start Windows Normally
Reboot
Return to OS Choices Menu

Are any of those the equivalent of BIOS mode, or does my computer just not want to give me any for some reason?

Posted on 2005-08-05 00:45:24

anonymous

Well...in my case I might mess around with 'Debugging Mode' just to find out what it is...even though I don't think it's a BIOS setup, and I wouldn't change any settings in it, results could be nasty.

What you've found is a startup options-type menu, kinda like pressing F8 on the original Windows 9x. It's not BIOS Setup.

Doesn't your PC display any screen or message on startup before the WinXP loading screen?

Anyone at all correct me if I'm wrong: but every PC has to have a BIOS setup _somewhere_, right?

--Omni

Posted on 2005-08-05 07:47:29

sabin_xiii

There's no screen before the loading screen with any information on what buttons to press. I printed it out just to make sure. All it contains are specifics on what types of disk drives and serial ports I have and things of that nature, plus a PCI device listing.

It's conceivable that I could just restart the comp multiple times, trying a different key each time, but that's time-consuming, and, from what I hear, it totally eats up electricity.

Posted on 2005-08-05 11:22:33

anonymous

What kind of computer do you have? Dell, Compaq, IBM, etc...

What kind of graphics card do you have? ATI Radeon, NVidia GeForce, etc...[you can check that under the Advanced button of the Settings Tab of Display Properties, I believe].

Just curious. You might can look up on the internet info on the card about how to do the scaling; that's why I ask about the card. Surely, unless it's years old, it probably has that feature.

Posted on 2005-08-05 11:35:56

anonymous

--Omni

Posted on 2005-08-05 11:36:14

mcgrue

It would probably be a good thing to have more display options in the next build. Maybe a pseudo fullscreen which doesn't change the res but takes over the full monitor nonetheless with some flat scaling. I've seen plenty of games that have done this before.

Posted on 2005-08-05 14:10:08

sabin_xiii

Well, the graphics card is something called SiS (I think), which I guess is pretty old, but I didn't think it would matter since resizing a game screen doesn't sound all that complicated (especially since it's already done so with multiple other non-Verge games at the 320x240 resolution as well).

Nevertheless, I tried it on a computer with a better graphics card and fullscreen actually works on it. Arguably I should've done this before, but like I said I didn't think it mattered, plus it's somewhat easier to do work on the other computer. This will work, however, so I guess the problem's solved.

Yes, Omni, thanks for the wonderful advice, everything works perfectly!

Posted on 2005-08-05 14:12:47

anonymous

Well...still didn't really get it to work, though...satisfaction of a 'job well done' isn't really there for me :)

--Omni

Posted on 2005-08-05 16:19:01


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