Under 48 hours remain!
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mcgrue
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Just a reminder that the HoV's end is approaching.
Remember, the end of the contest is at Sunday's end, Eastern Standard Time.
That is all.
Posted on 2004-07-03 06:51:18
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Interference22
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Sorry to have to ask, but what's that in Greenwich Meantime (GMT)?
Posted on 2004-07-03 13:43:14
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Overkill
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You have to be in 5 hours ahead, as EDT is GMT-5.
Oh... wait, that's 5 hours later, isn't it....
Posted on 2004-07-03 15:10:40 (last edited on 2004-07-03 15:12:13)
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mcgrue
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Correct, GMT would be 5 AM, Monday.
Posted on 2004-07-03 16:50:19
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Interference22
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Quote:Originally posted by mcgrue
Correct, GMT would be 5 AM, Monday.
Woohoo!
Posted on 2004-07-03 18:11:25
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Thrasher
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I'd like to point out that the news title has a grammatical error. It should be "Under 48 hours remains!"
Posted on 2004-07-03 20:59:05
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Zip
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You sure about that Thrasher.... :D
Only 'hour' should be pluralised, 'remain' should remain singular. You'd only change that if it were the subject, ie 'The Remains of the Day'.
Zip
Posted on 2004-07-03 21:10:44
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Alex
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Quote:Originally posted by Zip
Only 'hour' should be pluralised, 'remain' should remain singular. You'd only change that if it were the subject, ie 'The Remains of the Day'.
Or if it were only a single hour, i.e. "under 1 hour remains!".
Posted on 2004-07-03 21:55:12
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geronimo
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i'm thinkin' the only reason it would be "x remains" is if you're saying it's "under..." that remains
Posted on 2004-07-03 23:40:19
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Interference22
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Gentlemen, is this even *relevent*?
Posted on 2004-07-03 23:44:57
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Ness
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relevant is relative
Posted on 2004-07-04 00:20:02
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Alex
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Quote:Originally posted by geronimo
i'm thinkin' the only reason it would be "x remains" is if you're saying it's "under..." that remains
That wouldn't matter... If the "hour" is plural, the "remain" must be singular and vice-versa. I don't think there are exceptions, but I could be wrong...
Posted on 2004-07-04 00:34:45
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Interference22
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Quote:Originally posted by Alex
Quote:Originally posted by geronimo
i'm thinkin' the only reason it would be "x remains" is if you're saying it's "under..." that remains
That wouldn't matter... If the "hour" is plural, the "remain" must be singular and vice-versa. I don't think there are exceptions, but I could be wrong...
Well, THIS is an exciting conversation. Tea, anyone?
Posted on 2004-07-04 01:02:22
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Gayo
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It's not as cut-and-dry as you all make it out to be. "Under 48 hours" refers to an amount of time, so it's like saying, "less than [an amount of time] remains." It's the same rationale by which people say that something can be bought for "10 dollars or less." Now, I'm not saying it's correct -- the whole problem is that it's an extremely ambiguous situation. I'm not honestly sure which way it ought to be.
Posted on 2004-07-04 01:27:46 (last edited on 2004-07-04 01:28:27)
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Thrasher
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I assure you, I am correct.
What is? "Under."
"Under" what? "48 hours."
"Under 48 hours" does what? It remains.
(Under 48 hours) remains.
It's the same thing as if you were to say "The Land of (Smiles are fun.)" And that would be an atrocity.
QED.
Posted on 2004-07-04 02:42:40 (last edited on 2004-07-04 02:44:02)
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Overkill
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Quote:Originally posted by Thrasher
I assure you, I am correct.
What is? "Under."
"Under" what? "48 hours."
"Under 48 hours" does what? It remains.
(Under 48 hours) remains.
It's the same thing as if you were to say "The Land of (Smiles are fun.)" And that would be an atrocity.
QED.
You mean they remain.
Posted on 2004-07-04 02:50:44 (last edited on 2004-07-04 02:51:11)
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mcgrue
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Confidential to everyone:
I hate you all now. ;)
Posted on 2004-07-04 04:35:16
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Gayo
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Thrasher:
Ah, but see, Under refers to the number of hours left. It could be taken to mean "fewer than 48 hours remain," just as I might say, "I have under ten sheep."
Your absolute assurance in your correctness only shows that you are not treating the ambiguity of English grammar with the caution it deserves.
Posted on 2004-07-04 04:55:39 (last edited on 2004-07-04 04:56:46)
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Thrasher
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"Than 48 hours" is an adjective clause and is not essential to the sentence. When you remove it, you get "Fewer remain," which makes sense. Technically, "under 48 hours" doesn't even make sense. "Under" is a slang way to say "fewer than" or "less than," which can be broken up. "Under" cannot.
Also, there is little to no ambiguity to be considered when handling the English language; most of said "ambiguity" is due to a general lack of understanding on the part of most people.
Edit: Think of it this way: The ambiguity with "under" is only around because people started to use it in a way in which it shouldn't be used. "Under" is a preposition and determines relative location. It *should* have nothing to do with quantity.
Posted on 2004-07-04 05:54:42 (last edited on 2004-07-04 05:58:24)
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el_desconocido
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Remain is not in fact singular or plural, it is a verb. The conjugation used for singular first person (I), singular second person (you) and plural third person (they, or in fact hours) is remain. Only singular third person (he, she, it) would use remains.
Under or less than is not relavent, the only important part is which of the groups above the noun falls into. The noun is hours, third person plural, therefore we use the verb form for third person plural, in this case remain.
Groups made singular by naming them would also use remains. I can refer to the 48 hours as a single group, thus making it a noun in the third person singular, and so I tell you all:
Less than the 48 hours mentioned above now remains, and yet still less than 48 hours remain.
El
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Posted on 2004-07-04 06:39:44 (last edited on 2004-07-04 06:43:22)
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