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Alex

Hello. This has nothing to do with anything. But I need help as I'm at my wit's end. The fan on my GeForce4 card keeps making a buzzing noise. An extremely irritating buzzing noise. And the only route to non-buzz is via a fist brought down with considerable force on the computer. Then it stops. For about ten minutes.

Help me, my fist hurts, and my patience is wearing thin, and I fear I may break something if I keep pounding the computer into submission.

It's fucked, isn't it?

Posted on 2004-05-04 18:46:56

loretian

Can you buy a new fan? Is the fan a standard sized fan? If not, you can probably order one from the manufacturer.

Posted on 2004-05-04 21:21:16

will_the_great

Perhaps we could trade fans? Mine doesn't work at all. :D

Posted on 2004-05-04 22:57:56

Troupe

I had a GeForce4 once. Then I realized I was an utter fucktard, and I bought a Radeon 9700 Pro. That card is not worth fixing my friend, just kill it.

Posted on 2004-05-04 23:32:46

Alex

It's worth fixing in that it's the best I've got. I'll have to look into the possibility of finding a new one...
No, it's not a standard size, it's pretty small and thin. Probably going to cost a bomb to replace.
And thanks for the offer Will, but for now:

TNT2 here I come!

EDIT: Thanks, chaps.

Posted on 2004-05-04 23:43:24 (last edited on 2004-05-04 23:44:03)

Toen

Quote:Originally posted by Troupe

I had a GeForce4 once. Then I realized I was an utter fucktard, and I bought a Radeon 9700 Pro. That card is not worth fixing my friend, just kill it.
Yeah radeons kick ass! Every game experience is brand new because you get to see what kind of awesome kinds of texture corruption and other visual artifacts are going to show up!

Posted on 2004-05-05 01:51:59

el_desconocido

If the motor is grinding, this won't help, but if it's vibration, cram a small peice of matchbook cover or something in every nook and cranny you can find. My last computer was about 30% matchbook cover, 58% crap, and 12% dust. (by volume).

RE: Radeon: In some games, I get random red pixels wherever black is. I just pretend it's raining blood. And the transparent flickering menus simply add to the challenge.

El

Posted on 2004-05-05 02:53:27

Omni

I hope a GeForce2 is the only card I'll ever need.

Or the Radeon 9000 on my laptop.

Posted on 2004-05-05 03:37:42 (last edited on 2004-05-05 03:38:13)

Troupe

At least I can actually PLAY GAMES. My Geforce wasn't compatible with such functions as "3D engines", "anti-aliasing", or "drawing things to the screen". At least, not without brutally murdering my framerates.

Posted on 2004-05-05 14:32:14

Alex

My Geforce is compatible with all of those things, but it's becoming less and less compatible with me by the second... I think it's time for a geforcectomy....

Posted on 2004-05-05 20:46:50

Interference22

Radeons rock, so long as you update your drivers regularly. The great thing is, if you have a problem with a game, updating them on a Radeon pretty much always fixes it. Catalyst is your FRIEND.

My Radeon 8500 is a thing of beauty, although I had to update my drivers to play Far Cry since geometry was flickering in and out of existence. Another bizarre bug is that if you set lighting detail or special effects quality to anything approaching high then looking at certain things in the interior sections of the game causes your card to hang. Which is an arse. Still, it looks lovely. And I just performed a driveby shooting in a forklift truck.

Since hitting your computer helps, is there an obstruction in the fan causing the buzzing noise or is it the motor? Could be a couple of years of dust in there.

Posted on 2004-05-06 10:06:12

Troupe

Yeah, I'm going to have to update my drivers today Interference. Splinter Cell demands it. But they are so huuuuuuge... Oh well, at least we have another Radeon (and FarCry!) affectionado.

Posted on 2004-05-06 14:29:32

Alex

Updating drivers and suchlike is silly. If you want to play Splinter Cell, that's what Xbox is for. PC games are the Devil's work.

Fan: I took out the card and had a look at the fan, and messed about with it a bit. Made it worse. So I'm now using my on board video hardware, which is... ATI 3D RAGE PRO! It owns Radeons.

Posted on 2004-05-06 14:32:50

Toen

By the way ever since nvidia released that sexy Forceware 53 or whatever, this baby has been purring like a KITTEN. I get like hella over 60fps in ut2004, and I even get pretty good framerates in HALO which runs notoriously crappy on all video cards :D
*Hugs his ti4400*

Posted on 2004-05-06 18:03:16

Troupe

The Ti series is ok. The MX series is utter fuckshit.

Posted on 2004-05-07 03:44:53 (last edited on 2004-05-07 15:27:38)

Interference22

I will personally hit with a rubber mallet anyone who thinks PC games are the work of Satan. The PC platform has given birth to the most innovative, intelligent and downright nice to look at games the world has. Its not their fault they occasionally break down under the sheer weight of diversifying hardware.

Xbox, on the other hand. Can I just say I'm proud to own a Gamecube. At least its not trying to be a PC in a smaller box. Poor old DX2. It was ok but the levels are so SMALL and claustraphobic compared to the original. The Xbox architecture really bogged that game down. And if Thief 3 is worse off because its gone multi-platform (likewise for Doom 3) on the Xbox people are going to get hurt. By me.

If you have an MX, DX2 is a no-no thanks to its staggering lack of pixel shaders.

And it isn't just me that gets slowdown in Halo then?

Posted on 2004-05-07 09:43:21

ThinIce

Here's how I took the fan off of my ati 8500 at one time,
place it in the freezer for about an hour. This makes the adhesive glue between the chip and the fan's bottom extra stiff and brittle.

Then, take something like a credit card (or the likes, like a petco card, safeway card, target card, whatever) and mingle it between the gpu and the bottom of the fan. Try and force it in as far as possible. Then gently but firmly pull the fan off; apply most of the pressure to the side where you shoved the card in; This should make the fan snap loose of the glue.

Put a new fan on the GPU such as a gold orb, or the likes for a gpu.

Posted on 2004-05-07 10:20:10

Alex

Interference, PC games are the work of Satan. And you stay away from me with that mallet.

Plus, there is a way to play HALO with no slowdown: PLAY IT ON XBOX!

Posted on 2004-05-07 11:19:53

Interference22

Quote:Originally posted by Alex

Interference, PC games are the work of Satan. And you stay away from me with that mallet.

Plus, there is a way to play HALO with no slowdown: PLAY IT ON XBOX!


If PC games are the work of Satan, then Satan is a very gifted and intelligent fellow indeed. Well done Satan.

Exactly what don't you like about PC games? they're cheap, anyone can make one these days (*cough*verge*cough*), multiplayer is highly diverse, a great deal of innovation is free to flow, mods are in full swing and oooh! Sparklies! Yes, we have very nice graphics.

No PC games, no Deus Ex, no Halo (since thats where it started), no Doom, no Half-Life, no Outcast, no Thief, no Baldurs' Gate, no Startopia and NO VERGE.

The technology is - admittedly - poorly packaged, not particularly accessible and at the wrong end of expensive but the rewards for persevering are so GREAT. With the PC, the idea is not just to play but to CREATE too, which is the primary premise from which the PC can look down on Xbox and throw rotting food at it.

Posted on 2004-05-07 12:11:12

Alex

Xbox can throw the rotten food right back, confident of the fact that it can perform it's primary function of playing games in both these ways:

1) Well. Without gaps between frames that you could walk the dog during.
2) Without throwing up a blue screen or other such crappy error-related badness, or just hanging for no reason.

And there is very little multiplayer on PC games. Playing against other people online is even more the Devil's work than PC games themselves. Anyone who's ever played Red Alert 2 online will know that as soon as you begin, the terms "game" and "play" cease to apply. And whether the term "people" applies to those who play Red Alert 2 online is also questionable. I tried it once, and was deeply saddened by the experience.

And anyway, if you really must play online against people on the other side of the world who you don't know, and never will know, and who are probably gits anyway, then Xbox allows you to do this in a much better (but more expensive) way. But what the hell happened to being able to play against someone else in the same room? This used to be a feature of EVERY GAME IN THE WORLD when decent computers (Commodore Amiga, Atari ST, all the 8-bits) were around. Now that PCs are in charge, developers either don't bother because they are aware that most PC users don't actually have any friends, or they're too lazy to implement such features any more. CONSOLES STILL HAVE LOCAL MULTIPLAYER. So if you're going to use multiplayer as an argument for the PC game, you lose. :)

No Deus Ex or Halo? I'm sure there would be, and they'd probably be a whole lot better due to the developers wasting no time on a PC version. I mean, seriously, why would anyone rather play Halo on a PC than on an Xbox? There CAN be no reason (other than technical snobbery).

I hereby declare myself the winner of this argument. :D

EDIT: Yes, I agree that when a decent PC game actually works to an acceptable degree, it's generally a wonderful experience (Dungeon Keeper 2, yay!), BUT, that's how it is every time on a console. The only advantage the PC has over a console for playing games is its keyboard. I lament the passing of the Dreamcast... everyone who didn't buy one should be ashamed of themselves.

Posted on 2004-05-07 13:03:18 (last edited on 2004-05-07 13:12:18)


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