loretian
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Quote:Originally posted by Troupe
Right on Lore! Thanks for redeeming yourself, I would have rewritten my entire page long response to your earlier comment if I hadn't have known you were just hungry. May I suggest ham?
You may, and I accept. Not only will I eat ham tonight, I will grill it in the form of Andoullie Bratwursts and then top it off with sugared tomato paste (catsup).
Actually, do Bratwursts even have ham in them? If not, I still think it should count.
Posted on 2004-05-05 23:01:42
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Troupe
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Alex! Check your damn email! And tell me what kind of song you want for the first city! Jovial? Markety? Soft? PST KTHX.
Posted on 2004-05-05 23:02:41
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Alex
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Troupe, you are hereby awarded the title of Grand Idiot. My inbox is EMPTY.
Posted on 2004-05-05 23:05:42
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loretian
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Quote:Originally posted by Khross
It's disappointing how little we Americans understand about the other side's perspective in any war.
I tend to agree with you there, and I think part of the reason is that there was no obvious blatant mistreatment they were doing unto us. Of course, I could be forgetting something. All in all, I'm still happy it occurred, and I do believe it was justified, because I've read and respect those people who instigated it, but I do not know the reasons myself.
Also, lore: You're forgetting the War of 1812. ;)
Forgetting? Or maybe just didn't know about in the first pla- err, ahh.. hahah, right, forgot about that war of 1812. I'm not the only one, and I have to say, I'm damn glad we didn't successfully steal Canada.. because... um.. it's Canada and easy to make fun of. (see Gayo's avatar)
Posted on 2004-05-05 23:06:11
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Troupe
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SHIT.... Ok... Shit...
Posted on 2004-05-05 23:11:36
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Alex
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Hmm... am I missing something? What has Gayo's avatar to do with Canada? :`
You're forgetting the War of 1812. ;)
Actually, Britain and America were pretty much unofficially at war for many years, harassing each other's shipping and stuff. It was all pretty stupid for sensible people to be doing. Although... George III... maybe the tree told him to do it.
EDIT: Lore: I believe one of your major reasons for rebelling was taxation without representation? But I could be wrong...
Posted on 2004-05-05 23:19:58 (last edited on 2004-05-05 23:28:14)
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loretian
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Quote: Originally posted by Alex
Hmm... am I missing something? What has Gayo's avatar to do with Canada? :`
Well, it's a childish drawing of a stereotypical Canadian (in my mind). Exactly like the sort of jokes I like to make about Canada and Canadians. 
EDIT: Lore: I believe one of your major reasons for rebelling was taxation without representation? But I could be wrong...
Well, that's the famous saying and everything, and there may have been a point there, but in my limited knowledge of the subject, that seems to have been more of a slogan than actually one of the real reasons it occurred.
Posted on 2004-05-05 23:31:01
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Troupe
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Yes, it was Alex. That was the entire basis of our rebellion really. I'm pretty sure it holds true, as well. We didn't have any representation in the Parliment. Not like most of the things they decided on had anything to do with us, I would imagine. I mean, we weren't in Britain, we were here. Maybe England should have given us our own Goverment type thing or let us argue against the proposals that affected us.
Posted on 2004-05-05 23:35:45
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Alex
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Yeah, I thought it seemed a pretty strange reason... as no Empire country ever had representation in Britain due to not actually being in Britain... After all, if all the colonies and dominions and stuff had had representation, they would have dominated parliament, and therefore ruled the country that ruled them... Which would have been far too confusing.
Anyway, I suppose it's kind of like Puerto Rico not having representation in the US, I suppose.
Posted on 2004-05-05 23:45:04 (last edited on 2004-05-05 23:45:51)
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Khross
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Actually, when Patrick Henry shouted "No taxation without representation!" he and the founding fathers knew full well that the colonies would be out voted in parliament every time, and would never have accepted even if England offered the colonies representation in the government. It was purely a propaganda slogan.
Alex: The British practised piracy against the French navy during times of peace as well, but there was no formal declaration of war.
Posted on 2004-05-05 23:47:57 (last edited on 2004-05-05 23:49:57)
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Alex
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Yeah, during about 1600-1800 Britain, France, Spain and Holland were pretty much constantly at war with one another anyway, so it didn't really matter. It was probably difficult to remember who was at war with who. Though only pirates practiced actual piracy... the navy simply practiced their national duty. :) In fact, all four of those nations "employed" pirates unofficially.
Doesn't it make you glad to live in more enlightened times?
Posted on 2004-05-05 23:56:04
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Interference22
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Quote:Originally posted by Alex
Yeah, during about 1600-1800 Britain, France, Spain and Holland were pretty much constantly at war with one another anyway, so it didn't really matter. It was probably difficult to remember who was at war with who. Though only pirates practiced actual piracy... the navy simply practiced their national duty. :) In fact, all four of those nations "employed" pirates unofficially.
Doesn't it make you glad to live in more enlightened times?
Its nice to see that boiling hatred for eachother has simmered down into merely insulting eachother's cultures.
"You're boring!"
"You smell and your women are unnatractive!"
"You're very loud and extremely lazy!"
"You have no sense of humour!"
"You're French!"
Posted on 2004-05-06 09:57:48
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mcgrue
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Quote:Originally posted by Alex
Anyway, I suppose it's kind of like Puerto Rico not having representation in the US, I suppose.
Actually, I think Washington D.C. people use "No taxation without representation" as a rallying call to get representitives in the legislative branch. Right now, the capitol district is treated like a U.S. Territory (like Puerto Rico and Guam etc) instead of a state.
...because it isn't a state.
But a lot of them want it to be a state-like entity. I'm fuzzy on the specifics. It seems silly to have a 68.2 square mile state... although the population is half that of Rhode Island.
Posted on 2004-05-06 10:09:03
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ThinIce
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Badgersauce?
I forgot peurto rico was ours; hah! I say we dump our prisoners on it, pull an England ;)
Posted on 2004-05-06 13:33:31
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Alex
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I forgot peurto rico was ours; hah! I say we dump our prisoners on it, pull an England ;)
No! You run the risk of ending up with something like Australia. For the sake of the world, please don't do it!
Posted on 2004-05-06 13:51:19 (last edited on 2004-05-14 19:07:50)
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Troupe
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Yeah Grue, when I went there this guy explained it to me. But I don't have time now, I will edit this when I do. baibai.
Posted on 2004-05-06 14:33:33
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loretian
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From foxnews.com
Never Enough Uses for a Ham Sandwich
BEAUMONT, Texas (AP) — A courthouse security officer testified Wednesday that a defendant was able to attack a witness in court by disabling his shock belt with a ham sandwich.
Officer Kent May's testimony came in the punishment phase of Kiheem Grant's aggravated robbery trial in a Beaumont state district court.
Grant's trial was disrupted Tuesday when he attacked the woman as she left the witness stand. The woman suffered minor injuries in the attack before Grant was subdued. Jurors later returned a guilty verdict against him.
May said today that his investigation found that Grant inserted the sandwich between a battery and a belt electrode during a lunch break. That left the belt ineffective when the judge tried to trigger it during the attack.
Jefferson County Sheriff's Captain Leo Goldberg says Grant was wearing the belt because of concerns he might turn violent.
Grant faces charges in two other robberies and is accused of murder in a separate case. Prosecutors say he could face a retaliation charge for the courtroom assault.
Posted on 2004-05-06 18:21:14
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Troupe
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Oh my god. That is the coolest person I have ever heard of.
Posted on 2004-05-07 03:47:05
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ThinIce
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Don't know about cool...
But indeed- ham is a powerful weapon, in the hands of good... OR evil.
Posted on 2004-05-08 05:13:26
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ThinIce
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I have officially trademarked the term Ham™
From this point on, anyone who doesn't Refer to Ham™ can expect a subpoena!
Posted on 2004-05-09 22:34:55
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