Admins *always* get the last word. I mean, they're the ones who are truly in charge of moderating *their* website. They don't want the whole site degenerating from intellectual conversations to panda and ham threads (though these threads are extremely rad) to annoying threads and 'omg free xxxsexorz click hear kthx'. Plus, in almost any place it's a given that admins can manipulate, delete, or ban without justifying the cause.

In this case, they aren't trying to be harsh, but rather are trying to stop things before they get out-of-hand. This area is intended to have random (yet still friendly) community discussion.

Now, TomT64, you may have been expressing your opinion about unjust ban, but seeing as it was an *admin* that banned you from their LiveJournal, would it not make sense to leave at that? McGrue banned you because he didn't want things to get out-of-hand on his *personal* blog, based on past experience (ie. other arguments, particularly politics) with you. Whether or not McGrue was 'fair' is debatable, but you should know anyone will have very low chances succeeding when arguing against most admins about fairness.

Internet. Serious Business.

I love justice! Ideals and virtues are the veritable bomb!

EDIT: I didn't post in the LiveJournal because...I dunno. Why post in the LiveJournal when I could add it to the previous thread? Plus I thought we all needed a group hug.

Justice does indeed only show up in stories, because it always shows at east some bias towards the protagonist. It rarely addresses how the others character feel about this 'justice done'.

Likewise, McGrue banned you for reasons that seem right to him. It may be far from right to you though, but life isn't fair. Grow up.

Also, I'm sure what Grue said was not meant to be taken seriously.

A philosophical debate about justice is better than a thread about whining!

For my vote, I say justice is extremely subjective, and at least in my subjective view of justice, does not really exist in any part of the world that I'm familiar with!

Edit: Furthermore, I dont see how believing that justice is a thing of fairy tales is indicative of being 'immoral': its only either an indication that you're resigned or realistic.

I think Justice Zero needs to make an appearance in this thread.

Edit: Also justice and whining about this in a second thread are two entirely separate discussions!

Justice has nothing to do with the lj ban. Justice is payment for doing wrong. If I said or implied that the lj ban was unjust, I didn't mean that.

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A philosophical debate about justice is better than a thread about whining!

What about a philosophical debate about whining?

Thanks, I love it too.

Do not hold the world to your standards; It doesn't care.

Justice, by definition, is the moral principal that determines the fairness of actions. Put simply, a state in which people get what they deserve.

Justice exists, but some are lead to think it doesn't because the whole concept is subjective and therefore open to interpretation and misinterpretation.

If a criminal is executed, one guy might think justice has been served because they approve of the death sentence. Another may believe not if they believe death is an excessive penalty that puts the government on far more shake moral ground than that of the convict.

The only way to truly make sense of justice, I suppose, is to simply accept the generalised interpretation of it in respect to the most popular ideals: killing one-another is wrong, freedom of speech, freedom to think, freedom to procreate if the country isn't wildly over-populated etc.